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    RRP 105 — Mark S.; The Group Is My Higher Power: One Atheist’s Path Through Addiction and Back

    They Dumped His Alcohol and Took Him to a Meeting. He Had to Find His Own Way Back.

    We almost lost Mark S. more than once. There was the night he ended up on Laguna Canyon Road after throwing a television through a window, hit by a car, left with partial paralysis. There was the bathtub in Eugene, the fistfuls of pills, the slashed wrists, the three-day coma he came out of to find out his partner of 28 years was not coming back. Every time we talk to someone whose story runs this close to the edge, we think about the people who did not make it. Mark made it. And he is sitting in his home in Oregon right now, two years and eight months sober, hosting Zoom AA meetings, doing service work, and redefining what a higher power can look like.

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    Mark grew up in a strict Pentecostal household in Southern California where alcohol did not exist and being gay was something his church said deserved death. He knew he was attracted to other boys before he had words for it, and he carried that shame into a decade of drinking, blackouts, and survival on the streets before he ever sat in an AA meeting. His first drink was in 1968 at a family wedding. By his early teens he was already living a double life, and by 16 his father had caught him and thrown him out. What followed were years on the streets and in the bars of Southern California in the 1970s, a time and place Mark describes with a candor that is as funny as it is heartbreaking. You need to hear him tell it.

    “My higher power is the group of Alcoholics Anonymous. Not one person — ’cause one person will let me down — but the group of Alcoholics Anonymous. And the principles behind the group don’t let me down.”

    — Mark S.

    Mark found AA for the first time around 1979 or 1980 in Laguna Beach, drunk and suicidal in a motel room. Two AA members came, dumped his alcohol, and took him to a meeting. He kept going for a while. Then he did not. That pattern repeated for decades. He moved to Oregon around 1984 fleeing the AIDS crisis. He found love. He built a life. He also kept drinking, kept destroying things, until the night he took every pill he had. After a month in the hospital and a month at Cedar Hills rehab in Beaverton, he got four years of sobriety. Then a single joint ended it. He drank again until COVID, when a friend told him about Zoom AA meetings.

    That is where he found Extended Family, and that is where Julie first met him. Today Mark hosts his own Zoom meeting, does significant service work, and meets weekly with his sponsor John, who has 42 years of sobriety. He does all of this while homebound with COPD, running his meeting with more energy than most people bring to any room. What we find most powerful in this conversation, and what we think you need to hear in his own words, is how Mark talks about a higher power. He is an atheist. He says so plainly. And he has one.

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    Mark recorded this episode just days after losing his mother, having lost his father four months before. He talks about grief, about death, about what it means to still be here when you spent decades trying not to be. This is a conversation about surviving yourself. If you know someone who thinks AA is not for them because they do not believe in God, send them this episode. If you know someone who has tried and relapsed and tried again, send them this. If you just need to hear that it is possible to come back from almost anywhere, this one is for you.

    Listen now at https://mdcr1.com/105.

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    RRP 104 — Justin Rye; From the Streets to Service: Finding Faith, Sobriety, and Purpose in Recovery

    From a Doorway on Skidmore Fountain to the Front Lines of Recovery

     Justin Rye, a substance abuse counselor with nearly three years of sobriety, joins hosts Julie and Peter on Episode 104 of the Real Recovery Podcast to share his journey from gang culture and years of incarceration to faith-based recovery and service on the front lines of addiction treatment.
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    Episode 104 marks two years of the Real Recovery Podcast — and we could not be more grateful. Two years. One hundred and four episodes. Guests who trusted us with their most painful and most triumphant moments. Listeners who showed up week after week and reminded us why this work matters. As we step into our third season and our third year, we want to say thank you. To every guest who sat down with us and told the truth. To every listener who shared an episode with someone who needed it. You are the reason this podcast exists, and we don’t take a single one of you for granted.

    Now, onto Episode 104...

    ​When Justin Rye told us his mother was the first person he ever did meth with, the room went quiet. Not because the story was unfamiliar — we’ve heard a lot on this show. But because of the way he said it. No anger. No drama. Just fact. Like it was simply the way things were.

    ​That moment is about ten minutes into this episode, and it tells you everything you need to know about who Justin is and why you need to hear this conversation.
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    ​Justin grew up in Fresno, California — gang culture, weed at nine, juvenile hall at 12, 16 group homes he ran from every single one of them trying to get back to his mom. What followed was, in his own words, life on the installment plan. Roughly 12 incarcerations. Two state prison terms in California. One federal. Seven years living in a van. And then Portland — five years on the streets, using intravenous meth, with no family nearby to slow him down.

    He robbed a bank. With a note. No weapon. Federal agents caught up with him six months later. He did two years in federal prison.

    Justin Rye sat across from us — calm, grounded, nearly three years sober — and talked about every single piece of it like a man who has made peace with his past and is now using it to help other people make peace with theirs. He carries 12 clients at Adult and Teen Challenge in Estacada, Oregon. He runs three groups a day. He’s working toward his CADC certification. He has a driver’s license — the first of his adult life.

    There’s a moment late in the episode where Peter asks Justin what he tells clients who are struggling to hold on. And Justin says something we haven’t been able to stop thinking about since we recorded it. We’re not going to give it away here — but it has nothing to do with relapse being inevitable, and everything to do with what it actually takes to build something that lasts.

    Justin doesn’t sugarcoat recovery. He doesn’t make it sound easy or painless or wrapped up neatly. He says clearly that if you’re not uncomfortable, you’re not growing. And he means it — because he lived it.

    “It’s not easy. It’s uncomfortable as fuck. Excuse my language, but if you’re not comfortable, you’re not growing.” — Justin Rye ​

    — Justin Rye

    A woman he had smoked spice with on his way to Rob Black’s house that same evening died from it before the night was over. He never touched it again. The structure that saved him when nothing else had. The faith he found feeding homeless people on Sunday mornings. The moment he stood in a courtroom and thanked a judge for sending him to prison.

    ​You need to hear this one in his own words. 🎧 Listen now at mdcr1.com/104. Read more at mdcr1.com/104b.

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    Adult and Teen Challenge — Faith-based addiction recovery and counseling

    Skyler Ray — Recovery artist and advocate

    Real Recovery Podcast — www.realrecoverypodcast.com

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    Listen: https://mdcr1.com/104

    Blog: https://mdcr1.com/104b

    Newsletter: https://mdcr1.com/newsletter

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